Jindrich Bartek píše:ci nazory ma poslouchat a ci ignorovat.
Myslim, ze to je od pocatku ten hlavni duvod, proc se zapojit..
Kdyz nekdo nastavi pravidla dane organizace tak ujete, ze na ne nemuzeme s cistym svedomim pristoupit, a pak nam oznami, ze dokud na ne nepristoupime, tak se s nami neni ochoten bavit o jejich zmene, tak se podle me chova jako stara struktura, nikoliv jako Pirat.
Marcel Kolaja píše:A jak to vypadá s tím odstupováním od příprav?
Pardon, uplne jsem to zapomnel prekopirovat do fora. Tady to je:
2013/2/10 Tom Vymazal <tomas.vymazal@pirati.cz> píše:Dear European Pirates,
I finally managed to finish the promised reply to the survey and added
our position towards the future development of the PPEU initiative
(find it attached under the reply to the survey). We decided to reply
only to those questions that we feel concern us.
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SURVEY REPLY:
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1.Do you want to be a part of a PPEU?
We do not, at least not before the 2014 European elections as was
already agreed upon by our Board in this document:
https://www.pirati.cz/zo/docs/ppcz_ppeu_2012pos
Once the 2014 elections will be over, we (all of the members of the
party) will decide whether to join the PPEU or not.
2.What shall be the tasks of PPEU?
Coordination of PPEU PPs on elections, program making and policy making.
3.Which competences should PPEU have?
Make decisions on common program and policies, represent PPs in EU
4.What should the Common Programme entail and shall it be binding in
any way on the Members of PPEU?
We drafted a common program core based on the English translation of
our party's program. We believe a consensus among the EU-member-state
Pirate Parties can be reached on these six topics:
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1) Reform of copy monopoly laws
-- Abolition of information monopolies. Information monopolies prevent
people from sharing and using information. The politicians have given
in to a series of information monopolies that supposedly motivate
creators, inventors and producers to be more active. In reality
though, the only ones benefiting from the monopolies are huge
corporations whereas the market as a whole is failing (bullying of the
collective societies, patent wars, orphan works). Our goal is to
create an environment where the motivation to create goes hand in hand
with the freedom of information.
-- Abolition of software and life–forms patents
2) E-government (not electronic elections)
-- Institutional independence on location. In the same way you can run
all errands with one clerk in the bank, we propose the possibility of
making all of your agenda at any office. Nowadays we have to visit
several departments and offices.
-- Communication on the Internet. We will make the administrative
agenda accessible in a unified public administration internet portal.
E.g. citizens will get the possibility to claim occupation of public
space on an interactive map, without the need to visit several
offices. A system of feedback will be created in the public
administration portal for public objections to regulations.
-- Digital identity. The fundamental prerequisite for the e-government
is a working identity verification system for Internet communication
with public administration. One of the available options will be an
e-ID with e-signature made free of charge.
-- Proactive authority. The public institutions should try to deal
with problems of the citizens in highest possible measure even without
their own initiative (e.g. automatically issuing identification
documents). After logging-in into the portal of the public
administration, the citizen gets a complete overview of their
requests, the progress of other official procedures and further
important notices.
-- Professional and standardized publishing of documents. Similarly to
administration in Germany a unified professional look of documents
will be a part of official templates. Thanks to unified templates and
free formats complying with Open Data standard the decisions will be
processed faster and automatically made public in compliance with the
Free Information Access Act according to the model of the transparent
organisation.
3) Free Software in the state and local administration
-- Support of free creators. We will preserve the contemporary free
licences and deploy them in the public sector (educational materials,
photographs, documents, etc.). We will initiate the migration of the
public sector to free software which doesn't have security risks
rising from the hidden code and does not bring the dependency on a
specific supplier.
-- Education. From a long term perspective, we see innovation as the
key towards the sharing and development of our cultural and
intellectual wealth. We support educating citizens and students in all
types of educational facilities about their right to information and
about free formats and software. Furthermore, we support the
digitization and publication of documents stored in public libraries
and archives.
4) Protection of privacy
-- Anonymity. We demand the right of anonymity. There must be
guaranteed anonymity built into all apparatus used for watching
people; following identifiable people should require their explicit
voluntary agreement.
-- Privacy. We may accept surveillance of citizens in a public space
only in clearly defined cases and only at the necessary minimum level
(goldsmith's, offices, car park etc.). People must be informed about
the rules for using the collected personal information, maximum
storage time and the deletion policy. We reject further exchange of
the collected data, especially in automatic ways.
-- Security. Centralized databases run by the state, e.g. health
registry, are at risk of leaks and abuse of sensitive information. We
demand that citizens must retain control of their personal information
and that it must be properly secured.
-- Safeguards against abuse. In addition, everyone who was
specifically followed or had his/her data accessed by the state
official(s) should be informed of these facts in due time.
-- Prohibition of wide interception of communications. The European
directive on storing data dictates watching and storing information
about all telecommunications connections and also about movement of
all cellphones. We, in cooperation with other European pirate parties,
seek the abolition of this directive.
-- Prohibition of wide spying (cameras, communication, mobile phones
etc.). Public spaces are full of cameras that allow watching movement,
face identification, and connection with information about traffic
without acceptable reasons for this kind of encroachment on privacy.
In addition, studies show that the presence of cameras has minimum
effect on criminality, or criminality simply moves to other places.
This is why we support and prioritize police personnel moving from
watching the cameras to walking the streets.
-- Prohibition of electronic and biological spying. Routine checks
must not unreasonably interfere with privacy, so we reject „stripping“
with help of electronic scanners, perusal of private data on
electronic devices and other similar invasive procedures. We oppose
wide biological material collection from innocent citizens and its
storage in central databases.
5) Transparency in government, administration and political parties
Transparent organization
-- publishes all the information about its activities on the Internet
(that includes accounting, contracts, structure of property, authority
decisions, agenda), except information that is excluded by the law.
-- all the finance management should be done exclusively via a
transparent bank account which is publicly provided by a relevant bank
on the Internet
-- carries out competitive tendering using two-stage model
-- exercises effective internal mechanism for control and enforcement
of transparency rules
6) Universal referendum (upon a citizens' initiative)
-- Possibility of removal from office of directly elected
representatives by petition with signatures of voters. As for the
indirectly elected authorities, the citizens should have the right to
declare snap elections by petition.
-- Citizens' legislative initiative which gives citizens opportunities
to present petitions with new law proposals. This can protect those
citizens' interests that are ignored by political parties. The
Parliament or local government has to address the petition proposal
and if they don't meet its requirements within one year, the decision
will be made in a referendum. Modifications of the Constitution will
be possible only through citizens' initiative in order to eliminate
special interest modifications repeatedly attempted by politicians.
-- Binding referenda at state-level, regional-level and
municipality-level to decide on citizens' initiatives or principal
issues proposed by the Parliament (international agreements,
memberships in international organizations, military bases etc.). The
government will not be allowed to endorse any a priori positions.
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7.What about countries like Spain or Serbia or recently Italy which
have more then one Pirate Party?
That depends on the voting system that will be chosen. As long as the
system doesn't favor countries with multiple parties over countries
with single party and as long as only parties able to run for European
elections will have a vote in EU-related decisions, we don't oppose
multiple parties from one country all having full membership.
9.What types of organs shall a PPEU have?
a) Board
b) General Assembly
(c) Court of Arbitration -- we are not against it but absolutely don't
require it)
10.Do you prefer to have a “Chamber of Pirates” from the start or at a
later date or not at all?
Not at all, unless the structure of the EU changes significantly.
14.Which kind of voting system and voting weight would you consider
fair for a PPEU?
A one vote per full member system with equal voting weights would be
optimal in our opinion, because we believe such a system leads to
discussions and compromise instead of simple power play, and it also
reflects the nature of the Internet we all stand for. However, in case
that would not be acceptable, we hope a system such as the one
described in the PP-CAT survey would be chosen.
15.How many members are parts of your Pirate party right now? Do you
have a functioning member administration at the moment?
273 members and yes we do.
16.Does your Pirate party demand a membership fee and if yes, how much
is it right now?
Yes, about 20€ (500 CZK) which is reduced to 12€ (300 CZK) for
students, retired people, etc.
17.How many Pirates could you and would you want to send to the
organisation as delegates or members of organs at the moment?
2-3
18.What features of a PPEU are especially important for your Pirate party?
A common program creation and election campaign coordination.
19.Which are the red lines for your Pirate party? Under what
conditions would you not become a member of PPEU?
We would not join a PPEU such that it wouldn't be democratic or
transparent enough (according to the standards our party was built
upon), and in case it would be an objectless shell, or if non-party
members and parties from non-EU states had inappropriately large
voting privileges in decision making.
(21. And last, but not necessarily least: Is there anything else you
like to add to this survey?)
Focus on the program and elections, not the formal body.
22. Have You run for a regional, national and/or European election
before? If yes, which ones and when (only the last ones matter) and
with what results (Percentage and absolute number of votes)?
Yes:
Natonal: 2010 - 0,80%, 42 323 votes
Regional: 2012 - 2,19% total, 57 805 votes (as one region did not took
the elections, its +20 000 votes); best region: 3,03%, 10 617 votes
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The updated position of the PP-CZ towards the PP-EU:
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The Czech Pirate Party declared its position towards the PP-EU in
August, 2012 - this declaration is available here:
https://www.pirati.cz/zo/docs/ppcz_ppeu_2012pos However, the recent
development has pressed us towards readjusting our position
considerably.
The PP-CZ finds the process of creation of the PP-EU - considering
decisions made in Barcelona and Manchester mainly - to be
nondemocratic, untrustworthy and at this point also redundant. We feel
it is now driven solely by the desire to receive the EU funding and
will ultimately lead only to a huge amount of time being wasted with
no tangible results. Because of these reasons we decided to withdraw
from the founding process and only attend those events and partake in
those discussions aimed at creating a common program and coordinating
a common election campaign for the coming European elections. In this
regard, we would like to remind all other Pirate Parties from the EU
member states that the Prague declaration was intended mainly as a
starting point for a coordinated European elections campaing and only
marginally as a declaration of the will to create a European political
party.
We look forward to your eventual replies and any other input you may have.
On behalf of the PP-CZ,
--
Tom Vymazal
Head of the International Relations dept.,
The Czech Pirate Party
Podle ocekavani neprisla zadna odpoved - ani se nikdo nezminil, ze by to bral na vedomi. V casti citace skryte pod znackou OT jsou (jak uz nadpis dane casti napovida) nase odpovedi na dotaznik rozeslany Martinou Poser, ktere z velke casti pripravil Vojta Pikal - jednou z odpovedi je i okopirovana anglicka verze casti naseho programu, kterou jsme nabidli jako navrh jadra spolecneho programu -- to dodavam, aby nekdo nepodeziral ZO z toho, ze pouze bourame mezinarodni spolupraci. Naopak jsme nabidli reseni a nikdo o nej evidentne nema zajem.
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No a pak tu mam dalsi vec, ktera se tyka PP-EU. V chorvatskem Zahrebu bude o vikendu 16. a 17. brezna dalsi meeting PP-EU tentokrat venovany planovani kampane (presny porad jednani se teprve bude tvorit, mame navrhovat body). Pozvanka od predsedkyne PP-HR je zde:
Hi, everybody!
After Pirate Party of Italy, Pirate Party of Croatia is hosting the next PP-EU meeting with a focus on campaign planning coordination.
The meeting will be held in Zagreb on the weekend of March 16/17th.
You will be able to find all the necessary infos on ppeu wiki pages in the next few days.
In the meanwhile, we should focus our efforts on the agenda in order to have a productive meeting.
So far, the only suggestion/proposal is the one that came from Jens. Basically, he proposed that we could spend some time working on the Pirate Manifesto. Also, he emphasized that we should not discuss programmatically but rather then that, we should be focused on the campaigning preparations and strategy.
The undisputed fact is that we had no real, measurable progress on that field so I urge you to write down your ideas and proposals.
The way that I've imagined it is to collect all the proposals and then, few days prior to meeting, transform them into quality agenda. If anybody has a different, more efficient idea, please, share it through the mailing list.
Best regards,
Maša Utković
Moc rad bych se tam vypravil. Je to dost blizko na to, aby se dalo jet autem, takze bychom mohli jet treba i ve ctyrech lidech. Cast nakladu na cestu muzeme zaplatit z penez pridelenych ZO v rozpoctu na tento rok, protoze je to presne v souladu s prioritou RP, kterou je v pripade cinnosti ZO tvorba spolecneho programu a spolecne kampane v ramci EU. Takze se ptam, kdo chce jet taky. Rad bych s sebou Marcela jako zastupce RP a za ZO Petra Kopace a Marketu Gregorovou. Hlasit se samozrejme mohou i non-ZO Pirati, protoze nepocitam s tim, ze by mohli jet vsichni jmenovani, a obecne se proste hodi mit nahradniky
Peace
), zkusim se zeptat na couchsurfing.
), pohledat? Ja na to nemam ty investigativni bunky