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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:08:30 +0100
From: Thomas Gaul <
thomas.gaul@piratenpartei.de>
To: Wikileaks-coordination <
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Subject: [Wikileaks-koord] Travelwarning for Tunisia
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Hello,
just on short. Though in German:
<
http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/DE/Laend ... ?nn=332636>
Don't forget, today 08pm CET mumble: apophis.ch, next meeting.
Thomas
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Jestli si nikdo nevšiml, tak přikládám výběr z hádky mezi Amelií a ostatními:
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Amelia píše:okej. ik bin wieder hier.
you need to change this crap. ut well. if you want to be and look idiotic that is not my problem to the extent that i don't need to be affiliated with it WHICH I WILL BE ANYWAY PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME LOSE MY FACE BECAUSE IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY ANYWAY.
i am so upset i am not even using capslock, i am only keeping shift down to demonstrate my extreme distress.
amelia andersdotter
I am given to understand some Pirate Parties did already send this text out after the explicit encouragement of doing so by the authors of the text. It's not easy to write a letter to an ambassador, but it sometimes helps to go over the work of people who have done so previously to learn the codes and language that is appropriate for use in such situation. Even very harsh criticism has to be conveyed in a way that makes the letter end up considered rather than thrown in a wastebin without even so much as a dismissive grin from the receiver.
[...]
Thomas píše:And, I don't mind you calling me a twat. But there are others involved, too. So I urge you: Please watch your language. That would be a diplomatic way, Many thanks, Thomas
[...]
Thomas píše:As there is a German say: Do it better! Just go ahead!
Amelia píše:I have done that by commenting in the side-line. I just.. Am already working with this issue for quite some days and I do a much better job at my own blog and through Christian Engström and the Swedish Pirate Party. For me to correct this article myself basically means rewriting the entire thing. I'm not dedicated enough to your cause.
Thomas píše:To criticize is easy, I could do that on a lot of things. Go ahead and just do it better! And don't blame other people for working on the subject - that won't help anybody!
Amelia píše:I have given many suggestions in the side-line that are meant to provoke some thoughts. Actually, most of those things are not only good when writing a letter to a Tunisian ambassador but in general. It is a bit redundant to repeat all my (constructive) advice here, as there is a scroll function in the chat, but I do believe I have done what can be expected from me.
/amelia, the non-diplomatic collaborator who does know how to address diplomats
(Authors: Wolfang Dudda
Amelia píše:<-- this person is a twat
, Thomas Gaul
Amelia píše:<-- this person is also a twat
)
Amelia píše:Samir Allioui <-- this person is not much of a twat and could have been a good source of information since he not only has experience of Magreb Country diplomacy but also is working with inside sources for about a week. These things really help, you know?
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Když si to shrneme, tak:
(i) Thomasovi se nedaří kontaktovat Christiana, ale Christian na tom evidentně už pracuje
(ii) Amelia na tom pracuje
(iii) Samir na tom pracuje a má zkušenosti
=> Něco je špatně. Rozdělilo se nám to na dvě pracovní skupiny Christian & Amelia & Samir a zbytek, přičemž skupina 1 zbytku moc nepomáhá, ale když se zbytek o něco snaží, tak to skupina 1 zkritizuje (byť parciálně konstruktivně). Skupina 1 absolutně nemá zájem se koordinovat se zbytkem.
Osobně: Amelii sice chápu, ale její tón se mi ani trochu nelíbí. Nemá smysl produkovat práci, se kterou budou Ch. & A. zásadně nesouhlasit, protože to jsou momentálně celosvětově politicky nejznámější piráti. Ideální by bylo Ch. nebo A., aby se do toho zbytku aspoň trochu včlenili, ať se to pak tak nevyhrocuje. Ach jo.
Kdo jde na meeting?
Zdraví