Stížnost na board

[Jakub.Michalek]

Ahoj, chtěl bych, abychom podali stížnost na board, aby splnil usnesení GA o transparentním účtu.

[Filip.Krska]

Ahoj, chtěl bych, abychom podali stížnost na board, aby splnil usnesení GA o transparentním účtu.

Předpokládám, že se bavíme o PPI. Co přesně myslíš tím spojením "stížnost---aby"? "Stížnost na" bych pochopil, jako formální stížnost u PPI COA. Urgovat bych pochopil jako vyjádřit se, že by s tím měli pohnout, ale takhle nevím, čeho přesně žádáš. Mohl bys to, prosím, upřesnít?

Účet nebylo doposud možno zřídit, protože PPI formálně neexistuje a tudíž na ni není možné vytvořit účet. Minulý týden pravděpodobně došlo k formální registraci PPI HQ, na kterou je možné zřídit účet. Navrhoval bych tedy postupovat dotazem na předsednictvo na situaci ohledně založení PPI HQ a jaký je časový předpoklad založení transparentního účtu.


Zdraví

[Jakub.Michalek]

Tak je prosím urguj, ale jsem z toho znechucen, že jsme velice náročně hledali většinu mezi Pirátskými stranami pro transparentní účet, uložil se Boardu termín 3 měsíce a nic se nedělo. Já chci, aby se to stihlo ještě před GA v Praze. Stížností jsem měl na mysli "Vzhledem k tomu, že Board nezaložil transparentní účet a doba uplynula, CoA ukládá povinnost zřídit transparentní účet v dodatečné lhůtě XX", aby bylo jasné, že Board svoji povinnost porušuje.

[Filip.Krska]

Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:00:56 +0100
From: Marcel Kolaja <marcel.kolaja@pirati.cz>
To: board@pp-international.net
Cc: pp-leaders.discussion@lists.pp-international.net, Tom Vymazal <tomas.vymazal@piratskastrana.cz>
Subject: [pp-leaders.discussion] PPI HQ and transparent bank account
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

Dear PPI board,

On behalf of the PP-CZ, I'd like to ask, what the status of founding the
PPI HQ and setting up a transparent bank account, which was requested by
the GA in Friedrichshafen, is and what the estimates are. Thank you!
I put pp-leaders.discussion on a Cc as I guess more PPs are curious about
it.


Regards,

Marcel Kolaja http://marcel.volipiraty.cz/
Czech Pirate Party International Coordinator http://www.pirati.cz/
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[Filip.Krska]

Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:13:00 +0100
From: Pat Mächler <patrick.maechler@pp-international.net>
To: Marcel Kolaja <marcel.kolaja@pirati.cz>
Cc: board@pp-international.net, Tom Vymazal <tomas.vymazal@piratskastrana.cz>, pp-leaders@lists.pp-international.net
Subject: status PPI HQ and transparent bank account

Dear Marcel and PP-CZ,

As treasurer of PPI I will answer you directly.

The current status is as follows:
The PPI HQ statutes have been signed, but not yet published. Thus we
can't open yet a bank account at the bank that offers that kind of
accounting.
The PPI HQ statutes should be published within the next month by the
ministry of justice.

Before the GA I will publish Gnucash accounting files.
I would also suggest at the GA to rather have transparent accounting
over transparent bank accounts (as this measure can never solely
fullfil the intent of transparent accounting).
As you had investigated what is needed for opening up an account at
fio.cz/fio.sk (the only bank of which we know that they offer such
service) I would be grateful if you could inform me of all further
necessities needed.

kind regards
-at

[Josef.Ulehla]

Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 17:28:11 +0200
From: Marcel Kolaja <marcel.kolaja@pirati.cz>
To: Pat Mächler <patrick.maechler@pp-international.net>
Cc: board@pp-international.net, Tom Vymazal <tomas.vymazal@piratskastrana.cz>, pp-leaders@lists.pp-international.net
Subject: Re: status PPI HQ and transparent bank account
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

Hi Pat et al.,

Thank you for the information!

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 07:13:00PM +0100, Pat Mächler wrote:

> The PPI HQ statutes should be published within the next month by the
> ministry of justice.

Do you have an update on this matter please?

> As you had investigated what is needed for opening up an account at
> fio.cz/fio.sk (the only bank of which we know that they offer such
> service) I would be grateful if you could inform me of all further
> necessities needed.

I guess we already talked about it since you had sent this e-mail. So,
just for the record: I didn't investigate it on a detailed basis, as an
officially founded organization was needed, which we didn't have. However,
be aware that also Raiffeisen and GE Money in Czechia offer a transparent
bank account. I am sure the PP-CZ (probably myself in this case) would be
happy to help the PPI to register the bank account in Czechia if the PPI
decides so (which seems to be one of the very few, if not the only one,
possibilities).

> -at


Regards,

Marcel Kolaja http://marcel.volipiraty.cz/
Czech Pirate Party International Coordinator http://www.pirati.cz/
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[Tomas.Vymazal]

Vzhledem k tomu, ze drzime Board v sachu skrz penize z GA v Praze, tak je asi zbytecne jeste resit nejakou stiznost. Proto tema zamykam.